Keli questions

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Seriously thinking about buying the keli variator pulley from DayWot. So what if any parts do i need to reuse from mu stock setup. I was just asking so i can order these stock parts if they need replaced. I don't want to have the pulley and then find a stock piece that is bad. Also this just entails removing the stock pulley and replacing the stock with the Keli right? What improvements will I see. Top speed, low, mid, high acceleration?
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not to thread hijack, but I have a related question that is worth asking at the same time.
I am awaiting the arrival of the keli variator, and figure i should change my belt at the same time. Is it worth while in getting a slightly longer belt when I replace it, so it can ride higher up the drive face thus getting a little higher top speed?
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oh, and I was under the assumption that it came with out the ramp plate and you need to re-use the old one.
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it dosent come w/ a ramp plate or the little V shaped aligners

dont know about different belt length
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you will reuse your ramp plate, ramp plate guides and drive boss. if you find a belt that is slightly longer, please let us know! i replaced the belt on my nb powered sb50, and got a bunch of top speed back! you will see improvements all around, 5mph more top speed, better acceleration.
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Yeah just replaced the belt last week because it snapped. Just happened to be looking at how many people recommend this upgrade and thought i'd do it.
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Greetings:

The Keli is a nice upgrade, especially with the OKO or SEF ramp plate. Remove and discard the grease cover. Run 8-9 g rollers on a near-stock bore and lightly lube only the 3 ramp guides. Round off the sharp edges of whichever ramp plate you choose and the rollers will last longer.
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Re: Keli questions

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wow sucks that it doesnt include ramp plate. generally yes you do RE-use stock bushings

For those wanting same performance as an OKO variator for a cheaper cost, AND includes matching backplate see here:
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... f=2&t=9647

I should be able to get a few more soon :o
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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

The Keli is a nice upgrade, especially with the OKO or SEF ramp plate. Remove and discard the grease cover. Run 8-9 g rollers on a near-stock bore and lightly lube only the 3 ramp guides. Round off the sharp edges of whichever ramp plate you choose and the rollers will last longer.
Hey wheelman is there any difference in performance when running the grease cover on the keli?
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on the afo5e, the stock grease cover will not fit the keli variator
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Re: Keli questions

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Greetings:

I've obviously never tried to install the grease cover on the Keli. Werx is right as usual. IIRC the Keli is a bit bigger in diameter and the stock cover probably won't fit. I've come to the conclusion that Honda-san probably used grease for noise attenuation as much as anything else. When I had six rollers of the same weight, the tranny was silent. Putting 5s and 6s in made it ring like an old-style telephone bell. The timbre is exactly that of the steel drive face... Weird. :o
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My Keli came with a grease cover. I'm assuming the grease cover is a gold colored plate held in by 3 7mm bolts right?
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01EliteSR wrote:Yeah just replaced the belt last week because it snapped. Just happened to be looking at how many people recommend this upgrade and thought i'd do it.
So what size did you end up going with? how did it turn out?
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Stock belt. But this upgrade will have to wait. I think my s10's about to wipe a lobe on the camshaft.
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Hey on my 2001 Elite SR you still remove the grease cover? Is there another name for that because i can't find anything about it in my service manual.
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