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Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:30 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
Plus the Grom is hard to get, at least it was around here. Even if the performance is close, the Grom looks like the toy it sort of is. The Wolf is small in displacement, but it is officially a Motorcycle. By the way, Tennessee troopers have an arrest warrant for whoever defiled their skyline with a bike on the sidewalk...
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:29 pm
by Dan Diego
The Wolf is a great looking bike... congrats and please keep us posted on how she's treating you.
After your NS's roadrace ergos do you find the Wolf's pegs a bit too far forward?
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:50 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
I just noticed that the Old School thinking that went into the Wolf extends to include a kickstarter! Glory be!!
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:19 pm
by motormike
Dan Diego wrote:After your NS's roadrace ergos do you find the Wolf's pegs a bit too far forward?
My opinion is yes, but only slightly...more importantly: the lack of a pivot on the pegs.
I have ridden Hondas with folding pegs for 40+ years, and I find it somewhat
disturbing that the Sym engineers would eliminate a design based on safety
in order to trim production costs.
The cafe'-style seat on my Wolf is adequate for most...but my butt hurts after 20-30 minutes.
There is an optional seat choice, more of a "classic" design, that is said to provide better comfort.
I will probably keep the cafe' seat and take a rest often.
Most important difference I have found between the Wolf and NS50F is the handlebars.
My arms have absolutely no fatigue now, whereas on the NS, I was unable to stay on more than a few minutes.
without suffering "arm-pump"...
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:47 pm
by motormike
With only 1,700 miles on the clock, the clutch cable suffered damage.
Upon closer examination, the clutch lever and bolt have also suffered un-due wear.
Warranty claim submitted today to the dealer of purchase.
This is the first issue with the Wolf and surprises me with such damage at so few miles.
I have a 1974 Honda XL100 that is still sporting it's original cables throughout. (granted, mileage is similar)
My '84 Aero125 still with original cables, and 7,000 miles, nearly.
I am hopeful that Sym agrees that the parts are covered by warranty... 
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:13 pm
by LMH
Sorry to hear, I too have a bike 40 years old with the original cables. It may have been from the perch or handle not lining up proper. But from my experience with bikes lately they don't make them like they use to. At least it left you with 2 strands!
Sym is Taiwanese?
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:37 am
by motormike
LoveMyHonda wrote:
Sym is Taiwanese?
...yes, Taiwan, R.O.C....
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:48 am
by veedubh20
china roc dont own taiwan...
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:44 pm
by motormike
Clutch cable failure and subsequent claim was on June 10... 
Replacement cable, lever and bolt arrived today.
Dealer was fully co-operational, and expedited the parts to me asap...
Installation is complete, and the fun begins all over again...
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:57 pm
by paulpauly7
A failure this early is never a good sign.
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:21 pm
by motormike
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:18 am
by ped
Hi MM.
Install Honda parts of the same size and your good for a long time.
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:58 pm
by motormike
Log entry : Stardate 7/06/2014
.....Filled fuel tank with Exxon 93 Octane @ 00.0 miles
Rode 2.8 miles...stopped @ red light.
Took off and shifted into 2nd gear, then had a series of coughs, hiccups, and misfires through 3rd gear.
Throttle manipulation maintained a running engine until it finally "passed" the unknown cause.
The following 40+ miles were flawless...I expect it was water passing.
The tank was by no means drained to empty when it was filled...probably had 1/4 tank...
I should drain the bowl...check for water, maybe look inside for debris...
Responsible ownership tactics employed... 
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:42 pm
by paulpauly7
take it back to the dealer and swap it for a honda
Re: Sym Wolf Classic 150 OWNER OPINIONS
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:01 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
Heads would roll at the Minato-ku Honda headquarters if a consumer purchased a bike that suffered such a failure, but remember Honda had its share of failures in the beginning, too. So many race DNFs were blamed on "throttle cable failure", even if they were due to something far worse.
I'm disappointed hearing about this substantial bit of under-engineering. Obviously the pivot bushing and cable need to be a lot bigger and stronger and more precisely fitted.
I was seriously considering a SYM, but this fundamental failure in a key part - if it fails, you're walking home - makes me appreciate that Honda and the other Big Four never stop improving. Hopefully a re-engineered assembly is in the pipeline. If they just give you a replacement of the same parts, you can anticipate it to fail in about the same time. Lemon Laws exist for this exact reason.
