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Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:09 pm
by mr pibbs
Brother bought a razz. It was running alright until it died one night. Took it for a zip then i stopped it the driveway and it slowly lost rpm and died. We got it started again for just a moment by manually choking it, but never had it running for more than just a moment.

Here are the things we have done:
1. New fuel, the old was orange and crappy
2. tested petcock - works.
3. cleaned carb too many times
4. reeds look just fine
5. compression is 120psi
6. spark is present with new plug in play

The carb bowl is getting gas, but I'm not convinced that any gas is getting to the cylinder. Any ideas?

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:33 pm
by martynkim
Place an oil soaked rag in the gas tank and light it! It's a YAMAHA!!! Just kidding did you try quick start???

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:48 pm
by novs86
Exhaust is clogged possible.

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:05 pm
by mr pibbs
martynkim wrote:Place an oil soaked rag in the gas tank and light it! It's a YAMAHA!!! Just kidding did you try quick start???
I know, I know. Working on the elite is so much easier...

Is "quick start" starter fluid of some kind? What is it?

Novs - tried to start without exhaust. No luck. I have another one I will try to use, see if it works.

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:10 pm
by martynkim
Go to walmart or ur fav parts store and pickup a can they will know what u are talking about give it a very short burst in the air side of the carb and try to start usually gets something out of it. 8)

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:02 pm
by dwsracing
Do you have all the stock air cleaner setup ? They only run with the stock setup

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:02 am
by wikked_spree57
Right. And, they're known for plugged exhaust. Take the pipe off and clean it, or see if it will fire without it. I drilled a couple good size holes in the back of mine after the big bore I added, and it came right back to life.

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:23 pm
by mr pibbs
Took off the muffler, it started after a couple of kicks.
Put on a second muffler. It started then died in much the same way.

If i pour some gas in the cylinder it will start up and run til the gas is burned off.

Put a different float in the carb. Tried to prime the carb manually. No dice.

Why am I not getting any gas to the cylinder?

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:54 pm
by martynkim
Remove the carb flush it with cleaner let it sit in a bowl for a couple of days in cleaner then blow it out with a compressor.

Re: Stuck on a Razz

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:31 am
by wikked_spree57
Reeds could be sticking at low engine speed. Pull em out and stick them in carb solvent for a night then blow off with air compressor the next day. That should do the trick pretty good. If the reeds are worn, it will do the same thing also because they'll be stuck open. Meaning, not much suction from the case.