Electrical help needed- no turn signals
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Electrical help needed- no turn signals
Running spree that starts every time. However the only light that works is the headlight. I have checked all the bulbs and they light fine. I do not have a manual and am not sure where to start looking.
I can use a multimeter and have wrenching experience.
I would like to get this fixed for my daughters upcoming birthday in Feb.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This model only has an electric start.
I removed the horn and cleaned the male spade connector. I also crimped the female spade connector to fit tighter. And the horn works every time the button is pushed now.
I redid the the fuse holder and soldered it nicely.
The rear taillight is working.
The turn signals do not work at all (front or rear) and the bulbs are good.
I can use a multimeter and have wrenching experience.
I would like to get this fixed for my daughters upcoming birthday in Feb.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This model only has an electric start.
I removed the horn and cleaned the male spade connector. I also crimped the female spade connector to fit tighter. And the horn works every time the button is pushed now.
I redid the the fuse holder and soldered it nicely.
The rear taillight is working.
The turn signals do not work at all (front or rear) and the bulbs are good.
Last edited by L3ft2 on Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:38 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Electrical help needed- no lights
Welcome!L3ft2 wrote:I do not have a manual and am not sure where to start looking.
I can use a multimeter and have wrenching experience.
The Spree service manual is available for download at this link
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... ?f=11&t=37
Here's some ideas:
The headlight is powered by a AC. All your other lights (and horn) are powered by the switched +12v DC.
You are not mentioning if your electric start is functional, Assumption is only kick start is working. If the electric start is working, then about all the list below is covered, check switch & lamp socket & grounds for the lamps (some grounds are via the mounting bolt & rusty bikes can have problems there)
Some common failures are:
- Blown Fuse
- Broken wire at battery terminal
- Ignition switch contacts for +12v switched power
- Bad ground connection
- Switch contacts for the respective lamps
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
You're on the right path. It's nearly always the crimped connectors. They're usually loose, dirty, or disconnected. After all, 1t's 25 years old. Take off the front panel above the fender, below the headlight. Go over all the connections carefully. Check the connections in the left handlebar switch cluster. And follow the wires under the seat, inside the side fairings. That's about it. Everything is fixable. It's not a complicated machine. If the machine has been stored, there might have been mice or birds under the seat. Clear out any nests, mouse *, etc.L3ft2 wrote:The turn signals do not work at all (front or rear) and the bulbs are good.
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
noone mentioned checking the flasher relay, does the light come on but not flash? if thats the case then check the relay. i have one here im not doing anything with. but you could go to your local autoparts store and pick one up.
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
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85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
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2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
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Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
I agree flasher or fuse. Or bad switch? jump a wire see if they work
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Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
im thinking there is only 1 fuse on the whole bike. flasher is on the left side next to the lock mechanism for the seat.
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
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Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
Hmm, your posting looks edited - good to see you have a tail light working.
Advice from the members above covers it. There's only one fuse, and with a tail light lit all is good with it.
Removal of the flasher and a temporary jumper in its place is an easy place to start. But being that you have a meter and experience, just start tracing where ever you find convenient.
Advice from the members above covers it. There's only one fuse, and with a tail light lit all is good with it.
Removal of the flasher and a temporary jumper in its place is an easy place to start. But being that you have a meter and experience, just start tracing where ever you find convenient.
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
mine didnt work either i found the indicators earth at the indicator its self was the little screw that holds it to the handle bars and at the back i took them off cleaned under neath them screwed them on hard and the worked mint
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
L3ft2 what did you find out? are they working yet? let us know.
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
I traced the wires and unplugged and plug them all back in making sure the connectors were all good and not corroded. None of the turn signals light at all.
When I put a meter to them I am finding the female connectors only go up to around 150mv max once the switch is engaged for that respective side.
Where am I losing the voltage? Is it being impeded by the flasher module or is there something else in the circuit I am overlooking.
Thanks everybody for your inputs and help!
When I put a meter to them I am finding the female connectors only go up to around 150mv max once the switch is engaged for that respective side.
Where am I losing the voltage? Is it being impeded by the flasher module or is there something else in the circuit I am overlooking.
Thanks everybody for your inputs and help!
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
hows the grounds? is your battery up to snuff? just for s**ts and giggles unplug your turn lites and run a jumper from the battery + to the blue wires and orange wires coming from the lite and see it they lite that way. possible the plug is bad, i know it sounds weird but its happened to me on my car. and did you change your flasher? its possible it went way south and wont let voltage thru, like mousewheels sugget pull it out and jumper wire between the leads on the bike and see if they lite. they wont blink but lite. i have isses with mine but they work just seem to back feed and my tail lites blink slightly.
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
Sorry it took so long to get back...
Bypassed the flasher relay module as suggested. I am now getting steady front signals.
No signals in the back. gotta do some more diggin' to find the problem there.
Where can I get a flasher module? Is there something I can get that is workable at an auto parts store?
Thanks for helpin' out!
Bypassed the flasher relay module as suggested. I am now getting steady front signals.
No signals in the back. gotta do some more diggin' to find the problem there.
Where can I get a flasher module? Is there something I can get that is workable at an auto parts store?
Thanks for helpin' out!
Re: Electrical help needed- no turn signals
yes you can get on from the autoparts store. its what im running now with no problems only 6.00 compared to the 20 my local motorsports wants
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50