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So with some recent development of the criminal persuasion here in my neck of the woods in KC i am upping my level of all the time personal protection to a knife of larger size and one that opens quicker. Most scooterists or fixed gear riders that i know either carry brass knuckles or a knife. It got me wondering, does any one else carry protection with them (especially while scooting), if so what do you carry?
until i upgrade, this is what i carry.
CRKT M16-01KZ
until i upgrade, this is what i carry.
CRKT M16-01KZ
'85 aero Malossi BBK w/ Malossi gears, Malossi head, Polini Ruckus Vari and Malossi Wild Lion exhaust
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Re: protection
Not for protection, but because I like to be prepared, I always carry my Charge XTi and a mini maglite. This is the same reason that I keep a Buck Knives 119 under the seat of my truck, just a good $40 knife for random use.turtle13 wrote:It got me wondering, does any one else carry protection with them (especially while scooting), if so what do you carry?
I used to carry the Gerber Evo (partially serrated), a lot like that CRKT. It is a great everyday knife. Unless you are really handy with that, I don't think it will do much. Most theives probably carry something that can overcome a 3" blade if they are to be considered a real threat.turtle13 wrote:CRKT M16-01KZ
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Re: protection
having studied bo-jitsu for 2 years...i really dont like knives/guns that sort of thing.
however, for repair purposes, i do have a long screwdriver under the seat(doesnt help much since i need the key to get it in a hurry)
honestly non-lethal martial arts should be a first option for self-defense.
however, for repair purposes, i do have a long screwdriver under the seat(doesnt help much since i need the key to get it in a hurry)
honestly non-lethal martial arts should be a first option for self-defense.
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Re: protection
Handguns and knives, as many as I can carry.
If you are in Missouri or Kansas you should consider a concealed permit. No sense in waiting until a bad guy is within knife distance.
If you are in Missouri or Kansas you should consider a concealed permit. No sense in waiting until a bad guy is within knife distance.
1989 Elite E with 86cc Dio
Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSvdjxvBUA
Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSvdjxvBUA
Re: protection
the 'ol steel toe dr. martens are all I really need.
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Re: protection
Greetings:
My favorite tee-shirt transfer, worn on the back:
Honk if you've never seen a gun fired from a moving Harley!
Tay-Ax-Iss has issued concealed-carry permits since the early 90s. People have seemed more polite since then.
My favorite tee-shirt transfer, worn on the back:
Honk if you've never seen a gun fired from a moving Harley!
Tay-Ax-Iss has issued concealed-carry permits since the early 90s. People have seemed more polite since then.
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Re: protection
funny you should say that. i am trying to line up a class here as soon as possible to beat the possible change in legislation making it much harder to get one. not that i would ever use it, but it is nice to know that legally i can...elitedio wrote:Handguns and knives, as many as I can carry.
If you are in Missouri or Kansas you should consider a concealed permit. No sense in waiting until a bad guy is within knife distance.
KC is not that high of crime rate, but with some recent reoccurring criminal act keeps happening in my neck of the woods (brookside/waldo area), i can honestly say that my shot gun is out of the safe, in case a certain individual comes knocking on my door again... it has scared my fiance' and i a little, and made me a little more edgy and sensitive of my surroundings, hence now carrying my knife at all times. Normally my knife is mainly only kept on me when riding.
'85 aero Malossi BBK w/ Malossi gears, Malossi head, Polini Ruckus Vari and Malossi Wild Lion exhaust
'62 125cc Honda cub
'78 50 special Vespa Small frame
'62 125cc Honda cub
'78 50 special Vespa Small frame
Re: protection
I am not sure how it would work on a motorcycle but if you are in your car in Missouri, you don't need a permit to carry while in your car.
Around here in NEMo, the biggest problem is Meth. Those idiots can be zombies. Tonight the guns came out when the dogs cornered an opossum. 9mm hollow points to the head made him play opossum forever.
Just read where a man went into a farm store with an AR in Illinois. No one there had a weapon as it is against the law. He ran people ragged, they were at his mercy. Luckily he did not kill anyone.
I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
Around here in NEMo, the biggest problem is Meth. Those idiots can be zombies. Tonight the guns came out when the dogs cornered an opossum. 9mm hollow points to the head made him play opossum forever.
Just read where a man went into a farm store with an AR in Illinois. No one there had a weapon as it is against the law. He ran people ragged, they were at his mercy. Luckily he did not kill anyone.
I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
1989 Elite E with 86cc Dio
Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSvdjxvBUA
Rumia 50mm bore, mini-stroker, 28mm Oko, modified m-x pipe, Carbonfiber reinforced frame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSvdjxvBUA
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Re: protection
Oh, so that is why...I was on the job with a co-worker in Texas once and a .44 was in the glove box when I looked for a map (company car) I gave her a look (as her trainer) she told me it was for armadillos.Wheelman-111 wrote:Tay-Ax-Iss has issued concealed-carry permits since the early 90s. People have seemed more polite since then.
Very true, but don't forget about the limited range.elitedio wrote:I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
You could always try this method.
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Re: protection
Greetings:
Quoth the very Senior EliteDio:
It would be unwise to pick a fight with an old guy. If he's too tired to fight you, he might just kill you...
Fortunately, despite my Rampant Scooter-Straddling Geekiness, I have not been in that situation lately, but I keep that philosophy in mind if I'm ever confronted.
Quoth the very Senior EliteDio:
I'm close to your age and fondly remember something The Bear posted once; something to the effect of:I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
It would be unwise to pick a fight with an old guy. If he's too tired to fight you, he might just kill you...
Fortunately, despite my Rampant Scooter-Straddling Geekiness, I have not been in that situation lately, but I keep that philosophy in mind if I'm ever confronted.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: protection
I'm gettin too old for that stuff. Got a 45 and CCW. I don't carry it around our small town but when I go to the city.drizzle wrote:the 'ol steel toe dr. martens are all I really need.
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If I knew ahead of time when and where I would need my gun, I just wouldnÔÇÖt go there, then. But I canÔÇÖt and donÔÇÖt, so I always carry.
Either this
or this.
If I have to use a knife I have done something very, very wrong.
Either this
or this.
If I have to use a knife I have done something very, very wrong.
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Re: protection
The only protection I cary with me is:
But then again I live in a small east coast college town where my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
But then again I live in a small east coast college town where my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
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Yeah. Must admit, something wrong about a guy worried about needing a gun or knife to ward off danger when the greatest danger is riding a two wheel scooter, max weight 150 plus rider, in amongst 4 wheel vehicles ranging from 3000 to 80,000 lb and driven by idiots who would say, "I didn't see him". So now can I pull my 45 and shoot the driver.Fishman43 wrote:But then again I live in a small east coast college town where my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
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Re: protection
Not on the new ones That is my favorite part of riding a spree, you can pull the nose off the ground at any speed and jump a curb or flee from a Range Rover...whatever you want to call it.Lunytune wrote:max weight 150 plus rider,
We had a problem with some dumb twenty-something (21) not watching his drinking and beating someone to death...That helmet probably would help in that situation too.Fishman43 wrote:...my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
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