NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
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NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
I have a 1986 honda spree,when i first got it the ignition was bad ,replaced the whole switch
It will now turn over,114lbs compression,showing spark on the tester,and when I ground the plug to the block
although it looks weak????.rebuilt carb ,tank cleaned everything cleaned.
squirt gas ,starter fluid in carb and I get NOTHING wont even kick over NOTHING,its driving me nuts
Cant fiquar it out,spark ,compression and gas it wont kick over??????
Can anyone give me some direction,down loaded manual,tested ignition and cdi wires ,but theres now way to
test CDI,any direction would really help.
THANKS
It will now turn over,114lbs compression,showing spark on the tester,and when I ground the plug to the block
although it looks weak????.rebuilt carb ,tank cleaned everything cleaned.
squirt gas ,starter fluid in carb and I get NOTHING wont even kick over NOTHING,its driving me nuts
Cant fiquar it out,spark ,compression and gas it wont kick over??????
Can anyone give me some direction,down loaded manual,tested ignition and cdi wires ,but theres now way to
test CDI,any direction would really help.
THANKS
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
what about air and exhaust?
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
First off keep the starting fluid away from your 2 stroke or you will ruin it. If you want to prime it, use gas and oil premix at 50 to 1 ratio. If the spark looks weak, test the ignition system per the service manual.
Change the spark plug.
Service manual.
http://www.hondaspree.net/other/Spree_NQ50_84-87_1.pdf
Change the spark plug.
Service manual.
http://www.hondaspree.net/other/Spree_NQ50_84-87_1.pdf
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
First thing to do is check for spark. Take the spark plug out and put the end of it on some metal and crank it over. You should be able to see the spark
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
lugnut wrote:,showing spark on the tester,and when I ground the plug to the block
although it looks weak????.
THANKS
PimpinSpree wrote:First thing to do is check for spark. Take the spark plug out and put the end of it on some metal and crank it over. You should be able to see the spark
'86 Honda Spree : taz stage3 w/ mild porting, head milled 0.015", and pulley mod. 2k+ mies on kit
'80 Puch Magnum MKII
'78 Maxi Newport. Polini 64cc case matched, hi comp head, Rito alum crank, delorto 21mm race, etc.
'78 PA50 Hobbit
'80 Puch Magnum MKII
'78 Maxi Newport. Polini 64cc case matched, hi comp head, Rito alum crank, delorto 21mm race, etc.
'78 PA50 Hobbit
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
SuprasNsprees wrote:lugnut wrote:,showing spark on the tester,and when I ground the plug to the block
although it looks weak????.
THANKSPimpinSpree wrote:First thing to do is check for spark. Take the spark plug out and put the end of it on some metal and crank it over. You should be able to see the spark
Oops. Missed that. If spark is weak. It may not be sparking under compression
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
like I said I took the plug out and see spark when I groung or hold it to the block??????
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
what color is the spark???
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looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
Ive been working on small engines awhile,new plug,shows saprk on tester,and when grounded to block
looks wkit and and weak,new ignitiuon swith cleaned all connections every where,New battery
cranks over,down loaded manuel did all tests,all looked good,BUT oyu cant test the CDI
itsself,when i put the meter on the CDI like it says in the areo manuel I get Nothing.
But the spree manuel dosent show anything about metering the CDI,i only shows testing the
wires going into the CDI.
But got compression ,gas and weak spark on a new plug.
Could this be a CDI or coil problem???????
looks wkit and and weak,new ignitiuon swith cleaned all connections every where,New battery
cranks over,down loaded manuel did all tests,all looked good,BUT oyu cant test the CDI
itsself,when i put the meter on the CDI like it says in the areo manuel I get Nothing.
But the spree manuel dosent show anything about metering the CDI,i only shows testing the
wires going into the CDI.
But got compression ,gas and weak spark on a new plug.
Could this be a CDI or coil problem???????
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
yes it mite bee
ive had a week spark and its the pick up was to far from the fly weal .. when you have the fly weal expose it down by the bottom of the motor i use a peace of new paper to set the gap
these motor well not run if the air filter box is not shot and sealed.
swimmingfree.
ive had a week spark and its the pick up was to far from the fly weal .. when you have the fly weal expose it down by the bottom of the motor i use a peace of new paper to set the gap
these motor well not run if the air filter box is not shot and sealed.
swimmingfree.
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
My guess would be the coil. Flywheel is lined up properly? Exhaust doesn't have any kind of blockage? Not getting way too much fuel?
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
UPDATE,it was a glogged exhaust,thanks everyone and mystic for pointing out the exhaust.
boy that was a lesson learned.
boy that was a lesson learned.
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
Awesome super glad to know you have brought her back to life and that my advice has helped you reach that goal take some pics and keep us posted on the progress. if you are like everyone else on the forum you will not be satisfied with 30mph hahhaha
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
lugnut wrote: UPDATE,it was a glogged exhaust,thanks everyone and mystic for pointing out the exhaust.
boy that was a lesson learned.
so what'd you do ?
camp-fire method , lye ??
'86 Honda Spree : taz stage3 w/ mild porting, head milled 0.015", and pulley mod. 2k+ mies on kit
'80 Puch Magnum MKII
'78 Maxi Newport. Polini 64cc case matched, hi comp head, Rito alum crank, delorto 21mm race, etc.
'78 PA50 Hobbit
'80 Puch Magnum MKII
'78 Maxi Newport. Polini 64cc case matched, hi comp head, Rito alum crank, delorto 21mm race, etc.
'78 PA50 Hobbit
Re: NEED SOME HELP!!!!!!!!! (86 Spree - no start)
I took the exhaust off ,blew in it nothing completetly blocked ,put the air hose in and it popped.
what ever it was came loose.
cranked the engine with the exhaust off and all the gas ,that built up came out,and she satrted up
put the exhaust back on ,also cleaned the magnet and and closed the gap on the pulse ??? coil .
and she is now idleing.
bought the thing for a $100.00 bucks ,,,,,NOW i need a bystarter,and key lock for the seat 1986 spree
thanks again to mystic and pimpinspree
what ever it was came loose.
cranked the engine with the exhaust off and all the gas ,that built up came out,and she satrted up
put the exhaust back on ,also cleaned the magnet and and closed the gap on the pulse ??? coil .
and she is now idleing.
bought the thing for a $100.00 bucks ,,,,,NOW i need a bystarter,and key lock for the seat 1986 spree
thanks again to mystic and pimpinspree