Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
What if I run the oil mixture to low, that is what I am really worried about doing.
Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
Blue smoke is too much oil.
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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
Ok but what about too LITTLE oil.
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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
Greetings:
Listen to The Bear, for wise is he. Don't run the scooter at all if the oil pump is present. It sits toward the very front of the crankcase, under the exhaust header. If it's there, it needs to be removed and its mounting bore plugged with pump plug available from VT Cycles and others. Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. Premixing is a pain if you're ever caught out on the road without a quart of GN-2.
Honda specifies a ratio of 32:1 right on the bottle of its Synthetic oil product. I haven't checked if there's a recommendation on the GN-2 bottle. Running smoky and deposits on your spark plug, which cause it to foul earlier, are the only immediate symptoms of excessive oil ratio. You'll know almost immediately if there's not enough oil. And you won't like it...
Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line.
PM for details...
Listen to The Bear, for wise is he. Don't run the scooter at all if the oil pump is present. It sits toward the very front of the crankcase, under the exhaust header. If it's there, it needs to be removed and its mounting bore plugged with pump plug available from VT Cycles and others. Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. Premixing is a pain if you're ever caught out on the road without a quart of GN-2.
Honda specifies a ratio of 32:1 right on the bottle of its Synthetic oil product. I haven't checked if there's a recommendation on the GN-2 bottle. Running smoky and deposits on your spark plug, which cause it to foul earlier, are the only immediate symptoms of excessive oil ratio. You'll know almost immediately if there's not enough oil. And you won't like it...
Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line.
PM for details...
Wheelman-111
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
Put that thing back to stock pump and tank. There has to be someone on here with the parts you need...unless you like to pre-mix (50:1 is fine for a Spree)
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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
I actually don't mind pre-mixing everywhere that would be practical for me to go on my spree is well within the range of a tank.
Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
Jeez Wheelman, are you trying to tell him something?Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Listen to The Bear, for wise is he. Don't run the scooter at all if the oil pump is present. It sits toward the very front of the crankcase, under the exhaust header. If it's there, it needs to be removed and its mounting bore plugged with pump plug available from VT Cycles and others. Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. Premixing is a pain if you're ever caught out on the road without a quart of GN-2.
Honda specifies a ratio of 32:1 right on the bottle of its Synthetic oil product. I haven't checked if there's a recommendation on the GN-2 bottle. Running smoky and deposits on your spark plug, which cause it to foul earlier, are the only immediate symptoms of excessive oil ratio. You'll know almost immediately if there's not enough oil. And you won't like it...
Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line.
PM for details...
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
The stock injection system is equivalent to 50:1 mix, but most people who premix seem to do a more oil rich ratio.
Hope this help you figure out what you're going to do.
Hope this help you figure out what you're going to do.
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1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold
Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
wheelman, are you drunk??? that's the worst grammer i've ever seen you useWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line.
PM for details...
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1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion
32:1 is fine for a stock bike, just watch jetting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFRclGo834
Back the screw out a little more and it spews smoke just like my spree(with factory oiler) revving on the stand.
*, what do you think this is running on?bigluelok wrote:too much oil you will see a cloud of smoke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFRclGo834
Back the screw out a little more and it spews smoke just like my spree(with factory oiler) revving on the stand.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.